This list is unfortunately not exhaustive --- unreleased --- bootleg only | ||
1964 (?)
1 : flexi-disc included in Aspen Vol. 1, No. 3, December 1966. Despite the track is credited to The Velvet Underground, this could be actually John Cale only. The flexi credits say: "First half of a 15-minute recording made with 2 monaural tape recorders". | ||
December 3, 1964 John Cale - Tony Conrad - Walter De Maria - Lou Reed - Jimmie Sims
A full review of this Primitives rehearsal tape is available in Beyond The Dream Syndicate - Tony Conrad and the Arts after Cage by Branden W. Joseph. Won't You Smile is an early version of Why Don't You Smile Now. Shame, Shame, Shame is a Jimmy Reed's cover. | ||
May 11, 1965 8-16 43rd Ave, Queens, NY 11101 John Cale - Lou Reed - Jerry Vance or Jimmie Sims
A full review of this demo tape is available in White Light/White Heat - The Velvet Underground Day by Day by Richie Unterberger. Buzz Buzz Buzz is a Lou Reed original, not a cover of the 1957 hit by The Hollywood Flames. Untitled Piano Pieces are by John Cale alone. | ||
July 1965 56 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002
Copies of this demo tape were supposedly sent out to several people in England, one of whom was Miles Copeland. Current status: LOST... | ||
July 1965 56 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002
1-6 : Peel Slowly And See 5-CD box set, 1995 This demo tape was discovered by John Cale in his basement. "There's still stuff down there that I just haven't had the heart to... rummage around in," Cale says. "I knew, kind of, which boxes had what in them. I picked one and took it to Polygram. I was wrong. What I was given back on a DAT was not what I thought was on that tape at all." Levenson says that the original 94-minute demo showed up unannounced at his office this Spring [ed: 1995], after the rest of the box had been remastered. He says, "We decided to edit it down to 79 minutes to fit it on one CD - basically, the editing was taking a lot of space out - and go with it as the first disc." [in Billboard, August 19, 1995] | ||
December 1965
1, 3-6 : Peel Slowly And See 5-CD box set, 1995. The actual place and date for these recordings remain unclear. "According to Sterling Morrison, these songs were recorded in an unheated studio on Broom St. in New York City in the winter of 1966, "probably in November or December." They were recorded on a wobbly Wollensack tape machine, intented as demos to copyright the songs. Maureen Tucker had already joined the group, but did not play with them when these tapes were made." - Philip Milstein, And So On liner notes. In Peel Slowly And See boxed set liner notes, those tracks are said to be "recorded early 1967 at John Cale's Ludlow Street loft in lower Manhattan". Lou Reed moves into the 56 Ludlow Street apartement in Spring 1965. The band move to 450 Grand Street early Autumn 1965, and leaves the Factory for a rehearsal space on Broome Street in August 1966. | ||
Week of April 18-23, 1966 254 W 54th St, New York, NY 10019 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker Sound engineers: Norman Dolph & John Licata
Ultimate Mono And Acetates Album 3-CD Disc 1 2005 (1-9), Dispatches From The Dream Factory 3-CD Disc 1 2008 (1, 3, 5, 7-8). The versions of Heroin, Waiting for The Man, and Venus In Furs are quite different from the ones available on The Velvet Underground And Nico album. Also some of the mixes are a little different than the album final versions. European Son is a longer version with a one-minute extra guitar solo after the 'plate break', which was probably edited out for the final release. All Tomorrow's Parties is the alternate 'single voice' version. I'll Be Your Mirror is possibly the same take, but with alternate Nico vocal track. Nico ends second verse with "to show that you're home" instead of "so you won't be afraid", and it has quieter "reflect what you are" backing vocals vocals at the end. The version of Heroin has different lyrics starting with "I know just where I'm going" instead of "I don't know just where I'm going", a shorter intro before the lyrics start as well as a significantly different guitar line. Femme Fatale seems to be the same take but with alternate 'falsetto' "she's a femme fatale" backing vocals. Venus In Furs is an alternate take as well. Waiting For The Man starts with the lyrics "waiting for the man" in N. Dolph's version but starts with "waiting for my man" as well near the end of the released version Lou Reed says "walk it on home" which is absent on the released version. According to Norman Dolph There She Goes Again was on the original session. This session is available on a studio acetate dated April 25, 1966 cut for the recording engineer Norman Dolph. The information on the record labels (there is no cover) reads as such:
Norman Dolph recalled the acetate as something that was pressed at Columbia, he recognized the matrix number, he was working at Columbia at the time and so sent the master tapes upstairs to get a acetate cut, he used this acetate to submit to Columbia executives to see if they were interested in releasing the thing, apparently he still has the rejection letter from them essentially saying "are you out of your fucking mind" his words. He thinks that he may have given the acetate to either Warhol or Cale when Columbia sent it back to him. Norman Dolph: "I suspect the original tape is on Columbia Record Productions shelf at Columbia Records Archive Storage in Iron Mountain. I know there will be a blue 5 x 7 index card there which will list all the facts about the tape and the disk and to whom the tape was returned if the tape is not there. If I am listed as the returnee of the tape, then I gave it back to Warhol - but I don't recall handling anything but the acetate after the fact. It is my belief that Warhol/VU kept the multitrack master and the reference acetate. The tape from which the reference was cut (John Licata's mix) could still be sitting in the vault at Iron Mountain. Filed under that XTV number."[originally reported in The Velvet Forum] Norman Dolph: "I was the tape's original producer (see John Cale's remarks in Rolling Stone) and arrange for the studio. Warhol paid the bills directly and was in the control room with his cassette recorder most of the time, taping the proceedings. He paid me for my services as producer with a large silver, disaster-series painting. I got the job because I knew Warhol from the art world, and he needeed somebody in the record business.
Recording session at Scepter Studios photos by Nat Finkelstein are available in Up-tight - The Velvet Underground Story (p. 45), in Peel Slowly And See booklet (p. 20 & 47), in Warhol Live catalogue (p. 162, cat. 418 & #62-66), in UNCUT magazine, Take 151, December 2009 (p. 58). Despite those photos are usually credited as shot at T.T.G. Studios in Hollywood CA, they really are from Scepter sessions - as confirmed by Norman Dolph himself. Norman Dolph Interview by Richie Unterberger. | ||
May 1966 1441 N McCadden Pl, Los Angeles, CA 90028 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker Sound engineer: Omi Haden
1-3 : The Velvet Underground & Nico, 1967 According to the Peel Slowly And See CD box booklet, those were the 3 tracks re-recorded at T.T.G. for The Velvet Underground And Nico album. | ||
April 1966
1-6, 8-12 : The Velvet Underground & Nico, 1967 All the songs with the exception of Sunday Morning were supposedly originally recorded at Scepter studios with Andy Warhol and Norman Dolph behind the board. Then some songs (Waiting For The Man, Venus In Furs, Heroin according to the Peel Slowly And See booklet) were re-recorded during a two-day session at TTG Studios with Tom Wilson. Sunday Morning written after the TTG sessions was recorded back in New York with Tom Wilson - read below. Try to pick up a vinyl mono copy - according to Sterling Morrison, mono was the only mix that they attempted to do. The stereo was probably done by Tom Wilson. The current remastered CD releases offer an excellent stereo remaster, far superior to the original 1986 CD editions. The "Verve VK-10427" 45 offers an "alternate" 2:45 edited version of All Tomorrow's Parties with a hotter sonically-boosted mix. The first 1986 CD release has All Tomorrow's Parties credited as "previously unreleased". When the master tapes of the album were dug out for CD remastering, they included an alternate version of the song (actually an alternate mix, also known as the "single voice" version, with one vocal track when she double-tracked her vocal on the original LP mix), which had only been given the thumbs in 1966 at the very last minute. Bill Levenson, the executive producer at Polygram responsible for all their Velvet Underground CD releases, decided to include this alternate version on the CD as a surprise bonus for fans. It became less of a surprise, though, when - contrary to his instructions - the CD actually labelled this version as "previously unreleased". The Best of The Velvet Underground (Verve 841 164-2, 1989) has an extented version of I'm Waiting For The Man which fades about 8-10 seconds later as compared with the other CD versions. The Australian What Goes On 3-CD set (Raven Records RVCD-28, 1993) offers 8 tracks in mono. The source for those mono versions has often been discussed and in 2002, Ian McFarlane at Raven Records got Raven director Kevin to pull out the VU file and according to paperwork on file and notes at the time, they were supplied by PolyGram with a DAT transfer from the mono master in their tape archives. Mobile Fidely Sound Lab has released in 1997 a 24-karat gold audiophile CD which offer an excellent (the best?) stereo rendition. Nico's compilation CD The Classic Years - released in 1998 - has a version of I'll Be Your Mirror which doesn't fade out as do all other available versions until the Deluxe Edition. The 2002 2-CD Deluxe Edition offers same stereo mix as the 1996 remastered edition, the original mono mix, and the single versions of All Tomorrow's Parties, I'll Be Your Mirror (which doesn't fade), Sunday Morning (with brief additional intro studio chatter), and Femme Fatale. The source used for the mono version was a production copy of the mono master. This was originally intended, and indeed used for overseas pressings. Although the tape was in good shape, there was a bit of restoration needed - Sunday Morning was a considerable challenge (lots of noise and restoration of the first note which is missing in every other edition but this one). There are also edits in the master which unfortunately are there for good. | ||
August 6, 1966
1 : The East Village Other - Electric News Paper - Hiroshima Day, 1966 | ||
November 1966 701 7th Ave, New York, NY 10036 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker Producer: Tom Wilson
1: The Velvet Underground And Nico, 1967. The orginal recording has a little static noise at intro. The 2002 2-CD Deluxe Edition has an attempt to correct that defect. It also offers among bonus tracks the single version of Sunday Morning with brief additional intro studio chatter. | ||
April/May 1967 701 7th Ave, New York, NY 10036 Producer: Tom Wilson
1-5 : Nico, Chelsea Girl, 1967 | ||
September 1967 701 7th Ave, New York, NY 10036 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker Producer: Tom Wilson
1-5, 7 : White Light/White Heat, 1968 Original title for Sister Ray was Searchin' - it's moreover credited as such on the original 8-track and Ampex cassette releases. | ||
December 5, 1967
1 : Another View, 1986 | ||
February 13, 1968 112 W 48th St, New York, NY 10036 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker
1 : VU, 1985 This song originally surfaced in a rough mix version from acetate in 1982 on And So On bootleg LP. This mono mix is also available on Collector's Dream CD and A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD (both run too fast however). The VU version was mixed and engineered in June 1984 by Michael Barbiero at MediaSound Studios in NYC. The original mix was previously unreleased until it surfaced on the 2005 Gold 2CD collection. The main difference is that left and right channels are inverted. | ||
February 14, 1968 112 W 48th St, New York, NY 10036 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker
1 : VU, 1985 The original "rough mix" demo of Inside Your Heart originally surfaced in 1976 on the White Heat EP. It's also available on Etc LP, Everything You've Ever Heard About 3-LP, A Young Person's Guide CD, Collector's Dream CD, Ultra Rare Tracks Vol. 2 CD, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. The VU version was mixed and engineered in June 1984 by Michael Barbiero at MediaSound Studios in NYC - it has 4 additional seconds of studio chatter at the end. The original mix was previously unreleased until it surfaced on the 2005 Gold 2CD collection. | ||
May 29, 1968 1441 N McCadden Pl, Los Angeles, CA 90028 John Cale - Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker
1, 2 : Another View, 1986 | ||
November/December 1968
Sterling Morrison - Lou Reed - Maureen Tucker - Doug Yule
1-11 : The Velvet Underground, 1969. Track 3 is available on Lou Reed's "closet" mix; track 4 appears on Val Valentin's mix. The mono acetate "extended" version of Beginning is available on several bootlegs (Ride Into The Sun EP, Ultra Rare Trax Vol. 1 CD). Mono acetate versions of Jesus, Set Free, Beginning and After Hours are available on Ultimate Mono And Acetates Album 3-CD bootleg. The acetate version of After Hours is also officialy available on The Velvet Underground - New York Art - Deluxe Edition 7inch & CD (titled as If You Close The Door). Recording session photos are available in What Goes On Issue 4 (p. 11, 28, 42-43, 44 & 46), and The Velvet Underground Handbook (p. 28-29). | ||
May 6, 1969 321 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : Peel Slowly And See, 1995 The original "rough mix" version of Foggy Notion originally surfaced in 1976 on the White Heat EP. This rough mix is also available on many other bootlegs: Etc. LP, The Black Side Of The Street LP, Collector's Dream CD, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. The rough mix version fades out a few seconds before the VU version. Foggy Notion officially surfaced in 1985 on the VU collection, remixed in June 1984 by Michael Barbiero at MediaSound Studios in NYC. The vinyl version album (and its promo cassette version) has an introductory coda which is missing on all other known versions - hence it's listed as 6:58 on the label. The Peel Slowly And See version [6:46] is the longest available - it fades out 5 seconds later as compare with the VU CD version [6:41] - but it also misses the introductory coda. Photos by William 'Popsie' Randolph. 18 available in in The Velvet Underground - An Illustrated History Of A Walk On The Wild Side (p. 132-133). | ||
May 13, 1969 321 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : VU, 1985 The rough mix version of Andy's Chest is available on Orange Disaster LP, NYC LP, Ultra Rare Tracks Vol. 2 CD, and A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. This rough mix fades out just a few seconds later as compared with the VU version. The rough mix version of I'm Sticking With You originally surfaced in 1976 on the White Heat EP. It's also available on Etc LP, Everything You've Ever Heard About 3-LP, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. The VU version fades out 17 seconds later than the rough mix version and the Peel Slowly version has 2 extra final seconds... | ||
May 14, 1969 321 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : VU, 1985 The VU promo cassette offers same mix as the final release but fades out almost 20 seconds later with 21 "falling down", instead of 11. The rough mix version is available on Orange Disaster LP, NYC LP, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. It fades out later than the VU version with 18 "fallin' down". These different rough mix versions available have a defect after 1:15, which seems to have been restored on the A Walk version. | ||
May 20, 1969 321 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : VU, 1985 | ||
June 19, 1969 321 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : VU, 1985 The "rough mix" version of Ocean is available on Everything You've Ever Heard About 3-LP, A Young Person's Guide CD. The original "rough mix" demo of Ferryboat Bill originally surfaced in 1976 on the White Heat EP. It's also available on Etc LP, Everything You've Ever Heard About 3-LP, Collector's Dream CD, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. The "rough mix" version of Rock And Roll is available on Everything You've Ever Heard About 3-LP. Also on NYC LP, A Young Person's Guide CD, Ultra Rare Tracks Vol. 2 CD, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. | ||
September 5, 1969
1 : instrumental version, Another View, 1986 Those tracks seem to be different edit/mix of the same take. The 'vocal' versions originally appeared in 1987 on Ride Into The Sun/Beginning To See The Light bootleg 7inch. The 1989 7inch (also available as 3inch CD) given away with Italian lyrics book (Stampa Alternativa) has a 2:36 shortened version. The track also available on Off The Record bootleg LP and will finally get an official release in 1993 as part of the Australian What Goes On box set (despite the tracklist which credits Ride Into The Sun as being the version from 1990 French promo CDEP). | ||
September 23, 1969 Sound engineer: Gary Kellgren
1 : VU, 1985 The Peel Slowly And See version (3:59) fades out 8 seconds later than the VU version. The "rough mix" demo version originally appeared on And So On LP and is also available on Collector's Dream CD, A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5-CD. The And So On liner notes say "The track was recorded (...) in a studio that MGM had set up in an office on 57th St. in New York City. Morrison tells us that although MGM "never intented this studio for use as a full-fledged professional recording studio, ... we wanted to see whether or not it could be used for music." (It had already been used to do the spoken voices, although not the singing, for "The Murder Mystery"). | ||
September 27, 1969
1 : Another View, 1986 The "rough mix" is available on Orange Disaster LP and Ultra Rare Tracks Vol. 2 CD. This rough mix has extra "1, 2, 3, 4" at the beginning and doesn't fade out as the Another View version. | ||
Septembre 30, 1969
1 : Another View, 1986 | ||
October 1, 1969
1 : VU, 1985 | ||
Late 1969 or early 1970
1 : Peel Slowly And See 5-CD box set, 1995 According to The First Night liner notes, this four songs are taken from a rare acetate dated 1969. The story says a bloody guy was honeymooning in New York and was going round through record shops when he was offered a tape copy of this acetate. The original is said to belong to Maureen Tucker's archives. According to Ignacio Julia's Velvet Warriors, Sterling said that "the stuff available on VU and Another View is not the material from the lost album sessions. They had recorded some songs on the West Coast and mailed the tapes to New York, but they never arrived and so the ghost album remains lost, probably forever". This 4 songs acetate could be the only thing surviving from those sessions? Countess From Hong Kong originally appeared on The First Night bootleg, credited as The Countess Of Hong Kong. The version officially released on Peel Slowly And See is a cleaned up version. Ride Into The Sun was initially included on the rare French promo CDEP which was offered with the first copies of the 1990 Polydor box set. It was credited as "unreleased version sung by Lou Reed". It also appears on The First Night bootleg but you'll get one second extra time at the beginning on the French CDEP... A heavily cleaned version is also included in the bootleg box sets Seachin' For My Mainline 3CD and A Walk With The Velvet Underground 5CD. Dispatches From The Dream Factory 3-CD Disc 3 released in 2008 has Ride Into The Sun and We're Gonna Have A Real Good Time Together. | ||
April 15, 1970 1290 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10104 Sound engineer: Adrian Barber
1, 3 : Loaded - Fully Loaded Edition, 1997 | ||
April 16, 1970 1290 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10104 Sound engineer: Adrian Barber
1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 : Peel Slowly And See, 1995 Here Comes The Waves is original title for Ocean. Take 1 - actually a false start - was edited out of the 1997 Fully Loaded Edition of Loaded and remains unreleased. I Love You was "also logged, in a moment of confusion, as Isle Of View". | ||
April-July 1970 1290 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10104 Sound engineers: Adrian Barber & Geoffrey Haslam
1-5 : Loaded - Fully Loaded Edition, 1997 | ||
April-July 1970 1290 Ave of the Americas, New York, NY 10104 Sound engineers: Adrian Barber & Geoffrey Haslam
1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13-15, 17 : Loaded, 1970 Recording session photos by Jim Cummins are available in Loaded - Fully Loaded Edition CD's booklet. Some others by Henri Ter Hall have been published in Les Inrockuptibles Hors Série - The Velvet Underground (p. 34). The recording sessions are mentioned in Selling Sounds section in Billboard, July 25, 1970 (p. 30): "Hit factory dates this week include (...) the Velvet Underground for Atlantic". | ||
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